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The majority of people need a reasonable cost film scanning solution giving high quality results so will choose a product from Groups 3 or 4. top
| Type |
Slidescan & your
existing flatbed scanner |
flatbed scanner & transparency
media adapator |
dedicated film scanners |
| Quality |
depends on flatbed 300-4800dpi |
medium to high
quality 1200 - 4800dpi |
highest quality 2700 - 7200dpi |
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What are the
advantages of a dedicated film scanner over a flatbed with tranny hood?
Thomas Maugham December
2004 filmscanners_owner@halftone.co.uk:
There seem to be many flatbed scanners
on the market that offer very high resolution, in the 4000dpi range. The
Epson Perfection 4180 is representative. Can anyone offer an opinion as
to how well they scan 35mm slides and negs versus dedicated film scanners?
Dieter Henkel [Dieter.Henkel@gmx.at] answered: The difference is noticable. The Minolta delivers sharper pictures with more contrast and more details. All photos were scanned at 2700dpi with the Minolta Elite 5400 and with 2400dpi with the Canon 5200F, no alteration was done in Photoshop.
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Minolta compare DiMAGE Scan Dual III to 2400 dpi flatbed scanners
If I buy a 4000 dpi resolution scanner what size prints can I produce from 35mm film?
If scan 35mm film at 4000 dpi what file sizes (MB) can I expect?
Answer: 24bit scan = 62.7MB
The
Maths! A 24bit
scan of 35mm film (1.44" x 0.95" = 36.5 x 24.2mm) scanning at 4000
pixels per inch gives 21.9 megapixels (4000 x 1.44 x 0.95 x 4000 = 21.9 million
pixels). 24bits per pixel x 21.9 million pixels = 525 million pixels
/ 8 bits per byte = 64.177 million bytes = 64,177 kilobytes/1024 bytes/MB
= 62.7 megabytes (62.7MB) top
If I scan full frame 35mm film at 7200 dpi with Plustek OpticFilm 7200 what file sizes (MB) can I expect?
Answer: 24-bit scan = 207MB, 48-bit scan = 415MB
The Maths! A 24-bit scan of full frame 35mm film (1.44" x 0.95" = 36.5 x 24.2mm) scanning at 7200 pixels per inch gives 70.9 megapixels (7200 x 1.44 x 0.95 x 7200 = 70.9 million pixels). 24bits per pixel x 70.9 million pixels = 1,701 million bits / 8 bits per byte** = 212.7 million bytes /1000 = 212,700 kilobytes/1024 bytes* = 207.7 megabytes (207.7MB). A 48-bit scan is exactly twice the size of a 24-bit scan (415.4MB)
* 8 bits =1byte **1024 bytes = 1MB top
If I buy a 7200 dpi resolution scanner (Plustek OpticFilm 7200) what size prints can I produce from a full frame 35mm film?
Answer: 34" x 23" (A1
size)
The Maths! 1"=25.4mm. A 35mm film is 36.5 x 24.2mm = 1.44" x
0.95". Assuming that you require 'magazine quality' output then
print should be output at 300 pixels per inch. 1.44" length film
when scanned at 7200 dpi gives 10368 pixels. 0.95" width film when scanned
at 7200 dpi gives 6840 pixels. Output at 300 pixels per inch gives a print
of 34.5 " (10368/300) x 22.8" (6840/300)
- about A1 size. (A1 = 33" x 23.4") top
I've an A3 size printer. So what is the point of scans at 7200dpi which could give an A1 size print?
Answer: With 7200 dpi scan you can CROP a 35mm slide by 75% and still get an A3 print *
* An A3 print is 16.5" x 11.7". This requires a printer @300 pixels per inch gives 4950 x 3510 pixels. Scanning at 7200 ppi means that 4950 pixels requires a scan of 0.7" (4950/7200) x 0.5" (3510/7200). But a 35mm full frame is 1.44" x 0.95" so you can crop the slide by 75% and still get an A3 size print.
Scanning 35mm at 7200dpi and printing at 300ppi:-
35mm Full frame |
Quarter 35 mm |
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Cropping quarter 35mm film - Prints to A3 size (16.5" x 11.7 ") top
I have a PC with 64MB RAM. What resolution (dpi) 35mm scans will my PC be able to cope with? Should I upgrade my memory?
As a rule of thumb you need three times more Randam Access Memory (RAM) compared to the scanned file size. So 64MB Ram in your PC will cope with a 21MB file size. Larger file sizes will probably make your PC very slow and unresponsive.
Scanning a 35mm slide or negative at 24-bit depth and 2400dpi will give a 23MB file size*. You can print to A4** size.
You should NOT need to upgrade your memory UNLESS:-
With 23MB file sizes you can print and output at 200 pixels per inch giving preview quality A3*** size prints and still not need to upgrade the PC memory. We recommend Offtek.co.uk to cost desktop memory. As a very rough guide (October 2004) reckon on spending £100-£150 per 500MB (price varies with PC model & memory speed).
*35mm film is 1.44" x 0.95". 2400 x 1.44" x 0.95" x 2400 = 7.88 million pixels. 24-bit depth per pixel x 7.88M pixels = 189 million bits / 8 bits per byte = 23.6 million bytes/1000 = 23,600 kilobytes / 1024 bytes = 23 million bytes = 23MB
** 35mm film is 1.44" x 0.95". 1.44" x 2400 pixels = 3456 pixels. 0.95" x 2400 pixels = 2280 pixels. Printing output 300 pixels per inch gives a 3456/300 x 2280/300 = 11.5" x 7.6" print - approx A4 size print (A4: 11.7" x 8.3")
*** 35mm film is 1.44" x 0.95". 1.44" x 2400 pixels = 3456 pixels. 0.95" x 2400 pixels = 2280 pixels. Printing output 200 pixels per inch gives a 3456/200 x 2280/200 = 17.3 " x 11.4" print - approx A3 size print (A3: 16.5" x 11.7 "). top
My printer outputs at 1440dpi, so why is a figure of 300ppi printer output used?
dpi = dots per inch, ppi = pixels per inch. You need many printer dots to make a pixel. Typically 300ppi from a 1440dpi can give magazine quality prints. top
What is a USB port and USB2? How do they compare to serial and parallel ports?
USB features one "Universal" plug type for all USB peripheral-to-PC connections. USB has largely superceded the slower serial or parallel ports. A USB2 film scanner is backwardly compatible with a PC with USB 1.1. When you transfer scans from the scanner to the PC it will work OK. However if you upgrade your PC to USB2 the transfer will be forty times faster.
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Original USB
or USB1.1 or USB carries data at the rate of 12 megabits per second (12Mb/s)
or 1.5 megabytes per second* (1.5MB/s) - x100 faster than the old serial
or parallel port**. So a 150MB scan will transfer from a scanner to PC via
USB in (minimum) 100 seconds.
If you
upgrade a PC to USB2, by adding a USB2
card into a free PCI slot, scans
can be transfered up to 40 times faster. USB2 or Hi-Speed USB transfers
data at 480 megabits per second (480Mb/s) or 60 megabytes per second (60MB/s).
A 150MB scan transfers to PC in 2.5 seconds.
* 8bits = 1byte
** serial or standard parallel ports (eg. 9pin serial and 21pin parallel
ports shown above) transfer data at 115kbits/s (.115Mbits/s) or 0.014MB/s
- x100 slower than USB1.1 and x4000 slower than USB2. top
What is meant by scanner bit depth? The number of bits used to represent each pixel in an image, determining its color or tonal range. Bit depth is a term used to describe how each sample in a bitmap describes color. The following are the most commonly used:
48-bit is generally the highest bit depth you would encounter. Photoshop 7 and CS and SilverFast Ai handle 48-bit images. top
What is meant by Dynamic Range or D-Max? What is the relationship with bit depth? Higher Dynamic Range (OD max) can add detail in the shadow tones of prints and slides, and in the highlights of images from negatives. The level of 'noise' is reduced the higher the dynamic range. Flatbed and film scanner dynamic ranges are from 2.0 to 4.8.
Bit depth and dynamic range are NOT the same thing. 36 bit scanners with good dynamic range can sometimes capture more shadow detail from an image than can a 30 bit scanner. Specifically, dynamic range may add more detail in the shadow tones of images from positive film (slides), and in the highlights of images from negative film. More detail at Wayne Fultons Scanning Tips .
D-Max: David Kilpatrick says 'The Flextight probably does 4.0 which is needed for Velvia, the Minolta 5400 claims 4.8 but that is total nonsense - 4.8 is so dense you can't see a lightbulb through it! I think it manages a respectable 3.7 with leeway for contrast and exposure adjustment.'
What are the options for dust and scratch removal on film?
Dust and scratch software / hardware can be bought with your film or flatbed scanner to avoid hours of tedious dust spotting. Several options available are:-
Can Digital ICE be used with Black & White or Kodachrome Film?
Click here for info from the manufacturers. top
How can I scan X-Pan (24 x 65mm) and 6 x 17cm (617) panoramic film?
Epson Perfection 2450: can scan an area for film upto 5 x 11 inches at 2400 ppi. None of the carriers are designed for 617 format, but you should be able to make your own film holder. Detailed suggestions
Minolta Scan multi pro & Nikon CoolScan 8000ED: scan panoramic film. top
What minimum resolution dpi should I scan at to give various size prints?
| dpi | A6 from full frame 35mm |
A5 from
full frame 35mm |
A4 from
full frame 35mm |
A4 from quarter 35mm
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A3 from
full frame 35mm |
A3 from quarter 35mm
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A2
from full frame 35mm |
A1 from full frame 35mm |
| size | 5.8"x4.1" |
8.3"x5.8" |
11.7"x8.3" |
11.7"x8.3" |
16.5"x11.7" |
16.5"x11.7" |
23.4"x16.5" |
33.1"x23.4" |
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Film
Size: 35mm ins =
1.44" x 0.95" (36.5
x 24.2mm) Assume: 300ppi
prints
Maths: (dpi x 1.44 / 300)
X (dpi x 0.95" / 300) > size print
Quarter 35mm: see quarter
35mm scanning top